CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Urs Eppenberger/SWITCH Minutes of the Mail and Directory Management BOF (MADMAN) Agenda o Minutes of the SAM BOF o Review of the Charter o Review of the Documents - Application monitoring MIB - MTA monitoring MIB - DSA monitoring MIB The Minutes of the SNMP Application Monitoring BOF (SAM), which met during the November 1992 IETF, were accepted without any comments. The Group then moved on to a review of the Charter for the MADMAN BOF. The following decisions were reached: o Monitoring of Message Store is added to the Charter. Message Store does include X.400(88) Message Store, POP, IMAP... o The management of the applications is not a working item for the Group. The MIB enables MTA and DSA managers to detect when things go wild by monitoring the most important system variables. o The application monitoring MIB is planned to be finalised for the Amsterdam IETF. o The DSA and MTA monitoring MIBs are planned for the Fall 1993 IETF. o Work on the Message Store MIB will start after the Fall 1993 IETF. o The IFIP Working Group on email management has a more general approach. Good relations are ensured by cross participation of Working Group members and the sharing of documents. The remainder of the session was spent in reviewing various documents. o Application Monitoring MIB - It is based on Steve's original proposal and should form a framework for all network applications. - A name string will be added. 1 - A version indication per application is needed. - The concept on representation of processes in the host MIB will be checked. - There are already two other MIBs defined, a very short one from HP and one from CDC, concentrating on Mail and Directory. o DSA monitoring MIB - Additional variables: operations pending, active chained operations to other DSAs, current number of requests from clients in process, counters for replications, fail indication. o MTA Monitoring MIB - Support now for multiple MTAs on a single system is added. - A new abstraction has been added: channel. This is to get some figures out of very simple MTAs. A problem is deferred delivered messages and alarms set on `oldest message per channel'. - A counter for rejected messages is added. - A separate document is needed, also an RFC, to define object identifiers as a basis for identifying TCP services based on their port number. - Glenn volunteers to work on a layered model of the MTA monitoring approach. An association layer which receives and sends the messages and a higher level which routes and modifies (in case of gateway functions) the messages. o Message Store MIB - Monitor UAs connected to the message store, submission, retrieval, messages locked in the store. - The MIB should support capacity planning. - Ed Reed volunteered to work on a document to study the issues involved. Attendees Harald Alvestrand Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no Robert Austein sra@epilogue.com Cyrus Chow cchow@ames.arc.nasa.gov Robert Cooney cooney@wnyose.nctsw.navy.mil Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch Ned Freed ned@innosoft.com 2 Terry Gray gray@cac.washington.edu Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@rc.tudelft.nl Barbara Jennings bjjenni@sandia.gov Thomas Johannsen Thomas.Johannsen@ebzaw1.et.tu-dresden.de Kevin Jordan Kevin.E.Jordan@cdc.com Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@funet.fi Steve Kille S.Kille@isode.com Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@exp.edf.fr Bruce Mackey brucem@cinops.xerox.com Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp Ignacio Martinez martinez@rediris.es Bob Morgan morgan@networking.stanford.edu William Nowicki nowicki@legato.com Geir Pedersen Geir.Pedersen@usit.uio.no David Perkins dperkins@synoptics.com Edward Reed eer@cinops.xerox.com Jim Romaguera romaguera@cosine-mhs.switch.ch Yzhak Ronen y.ronen@homxa.att.com Chris Shaw cshaw@banyan.com Sue Smith smiths.es.net Einar Stefferud stef@nma.com Catherine Summers cfs@cos.com Panos-Gavriil Tsigaridas Tsigaridas@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de 3